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jeanb
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:39:14 PM Quote
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I really thought I could deal with the reaction of everyone to my RA but I was wrong. Over the last 10 years or so I've come to value my closest friends, who always go out of their way to help. However, it struck me forcibly on Sunday that even they don't really understand. A group of 8 of us met for lunch and the "lads" decided they would head off into Manchester for a pre-Christnas curry this Friday. As we were leaving, I heard the "girls" saying "see you on Friday then". I wondered if I had missed something, but no, they had arranged to go to the Christmas markets and had assumed I wouldn't want to go. Now here comes the rant - first of all it would have been nice to at least have been asked. I know I can't go down on the metro as scooters aren't allowed, but Steve would have taken me down in the car and brought me home afterwards. I feel very hurt - it's bad enough being disabled, but to be have decisions taken away from you by friends is a bit too much. Am I making a mountain out of a molehill here? I've been very upset all week.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:10:51 PM Quote
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No you are not making a mountain out of a molehill Jean, I would have been upset too.
At least you know you have some friends you can rely on.....see you on Saturday!

Love and hugs, Doreen xx

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:49:10 PM Quote
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I think I would have been hurt too so I understand your reaction. I am sure they would be really upset if they knew they had hurt your feelings. I think you should talk to the one you are closest to. If they are true friends then you should be able to do this without it affecting the friendships and hopefully this will avoid a similar situation in the future.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:21:28 PM Quote
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Hi Jean

I totally understand where you are coming from, a total lack of thought and understanding to say the least. I have come to the conclusion that people just do not think as they get so wrapped in their own lives, I know we shouldn t take it personally but it really does hurt especially when you are a very caring person yourself, and would never dream of treating somebody like that.

Have a really great time on Saturday with all your close friends.

Love Julia xx
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:15:55 PM Quote
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Id be hurt too.

Really hurt Jean.

had some friend comments last yr at the christmas meal that were very painful. People dont understand re the loss of RA especially when you are cheery
how to be a velvet bulldoser
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:30:29 PM Quote
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Oh Jean. That's terrible. I would have felt exactly the same. It's times like that you realise just who your friends are. I might be a very new friend but I wouldn't do anything like that to you. In fact, I wouldn't even go if you weren't coming. 'There's no show without Punch.' A big hug on its way on saturday.

Love Sheila x
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#7 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:47:53 AM Quote
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Well I am really appalled to read this Jean. I would have to ask them 'in all innocence' where are you all planning to go on Friday?
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:53:51 AM Quote
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i agree awfull thing to do to a friend and secrets arrangements always come out, i have a friend in my ladies circle that has no ill health and she was ranting about another not going here there etc,i asked her to find out what her disability was(m.e) and look it up on the net, i also said to look up R.A as that covers me, she was very humble last i saw her as she had no idea what people have to live with,she is more understanding now and not so quick to judge, as said we look good some days and im like granny grotbags others.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:59:13 AM Quote
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Thanks so much you lovely people. It's good to talk to others who really understand.

I DO know that the friends I have made on this forum will always be my friends. The lovely, caring folk I've met here and on our FB group are the one really good thing about having RA. Without it, I would never have met you all and you have changed my life.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 12:08:18 PM Quote
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hi Jean,

yes i would have been very upset and it would take me a long while to get over it.

i hope the penny drops and they realise just how hurt you are feeling,

glad you have support on here,

take care

Suzanne x
hen
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 1:39:38 PM Quote
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Hi Jean,

I'm so sorry that this has happened and totally understand how upset it's made you feel. Something similar happened to me a few weeks ago.
I am sure that your friends had no intention of causing you any upset whatsoever, but that's not the point really. It's the fact that they didn't think fully about it, that's what hurts.
I too assume that my closest friends do 'get' my RA and mostly, like your friends, they do understand and are very very good; but there have been a few occasions in the past when I have felt left out or let down, either by an action or remark, and it has struck me that they don't fully 'get' it after all. Then I think perhaps I'm expecting too much...how can they fully appreciate it..they don't have it. That's why, as you say, the people on here and FB are invaluable.
I hope you can get over the 'raw' hurt very soon and I'm sure your friends will do something lovely, probably when you least expect it, to restore your belief that they do understand.

Have fun on Saturday...will it involve getting pictures of naked men again?....Doreen seems very keen! LOL

Diane x
dorat
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:26:57 PM Quote
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Uh???? The very idea!!

See what a bad influence you are on me Jean! RollEyes LOL


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#13 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:40:13 PM Quote
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She's always been partial to a naked man or two, Diane! Not too fussy either, come to think of itBigGrin
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#14 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:16:12 PM Quote
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LOL

Sorry Doreen, I meant you seem keen to meet Jean on Saturday and I wondered if there was another reason for that besides spending time in her lovely company...I'm sure I remember that one time you all met there were pictures of naked men involved......could be the drugs I suppose??Unsure

BigGrin Diane x
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#15 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:11:28 PM Quote
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You are right Diane, there was apicture of naked men in the ladies' at a pub we once went to.Blushing

Never have I been more embarrassed than when Jean, Julie and Kathleen were fighting each other to take photos of it!

Oh the shame, it's all coming back to me now Blushing LOL

LynW
#16 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2011 1:30:17 AM Quote
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Seems like most of us have been in that position at some time Jean (and no, I don't mean fighting over naked men!!) Not a good place to be and I know exactly how you feel. Friends? Hmmm .... I have given up on most of my 'so called' friends who over the years have either excluded me, as being unable to do something or other, or have simply made no effort to get in touch when I have been really ill. Heyho ... such is life!

Looking forward to seeing you on Saturday; I'm glad you aren't going out gadding Friday night you need to be in top form for the Weasel!

Chin up missus,

Lyn x
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#17 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2011 9:52:08 AM Quote
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Big bum Jean, just hate this sort of thing, the assumptions people make are just mad. But I get angry and sarcastic as well as upset by it.

So we're in the pub, I'm sat down, everybody else is stood up because its busy and the circle closes in and I'm on the outside. So I just scream at them to remind them I'm still there, in a ranting mad person sort of way, gets the point across, everybody is shocked and laughs in an embarrassed way at their own thoughtlessness and it makes me feel better!

I bump into a neighbour the other day who hasn't been round for a cuppa since I told her about my diagnosis. Oh, you're still alive then she quips, would you have noticed if I wasn't, I quip back. Cor, I was quick that day, usually only think of those 2 days later.

Yes, its upsetting, but as Lyn says heyho, they're not worth the energy. Hope you're feeling a bit more cheery soon, easy to say but tricky thing to do.

Sara
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jeanb
#18 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2011 12:07:35 PM Quote
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Thanks again you lovely peeps. So sory you are going through this as well, Sarah - Soooooo not funny but B***** 'em all!!

I have to say at this juncture, that when we were in the infamous pub in Harrogate, I was NOT a party to the raucous behaviour in the loo. If you cast your little mind back, Dor, I couldn't even walk at that stage, let alone climb stairs so nurnurnunurnur!

Can't wait to see you all on Saturday. Budgy - you are very quiet - hope you are not chickening out! Cool RollEyes
dorat
#19 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2011 1:23:00 PM Quote
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But you didn't LOOK ill Jean LOL LOL




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#20 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2011 4:35:35 PM Quote
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I couldn`t get up the stairs that first time either....................................I had to wait till the next time!

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